Valley Independent Sentinel

posted by: Rita on October 21, 2009  5:47pm

Good for you Mary Ann and Dave, let them have it . . . long overdue!

posted by: Mr. Happy on October 21, 2009  8:16pm

Gotta love the 1st Selectman’s smug smirk when she thinks she is being clever.  Not to mention Dave and his remedial reading success.  They spin spin spin but there quotes in past voices tell how they really feel.  Only two more weeks of this idiocy.

posted by: CrazyinOxford on October 21, 2009  10:26pm

Why do the Republicans not realize they really screwed up?  Because they are listening to a bunch of idiots leading this cause, namely Augie Palmer, Joe Rasberry, and Ed Carver.

If the Republicans were smart, they would have taken credit for the Affordable Housing study because it was THEIR MEMBERS on the P & Z that initiated this study, not Drayton-Rogers.  The study would have looked at ways of crafting REAL REGULATIONS to PROTECT Oxford from these types of developments, but now the Republicans have said they do not want this study, so I guess they are AGAINST creating real regulations.

What is even worse then not having a clue, is lying about an issue that you have no clue about in the first place.  Palmer, Rasberry, Carver, and Haversat should be embarrassed and Oxford residents need to be aware of these people’s motives!

posted by: Concerned Citizen on October 22, 2009  5:15am

Hmmm…does Oxford’s First Selectman really expect anyone to believe that she held this press conference “as the leader of our community” having only the best interests of the townspeople as her motive?  Seems as though she did this merely as a way to slander her opponents, hoping to win votes for herself and her running mate.  With regard to Mr. McKane, I am confused as to whether he attempted to attend the Keep Oxford Green picnic as a private citizen or in his role as Selectman, and why he brought Attorney Teodosio with him.  Bodyguard perhaps?  Does the Town have to pay Attorney Teodosio’s legal fees for his time on that day?  It is truly apparent that the actions of Mrs. Drayton Rogers and Mr. McKane are intended to stop open and honest discussion on issues.

posted by: not again on October 22, 2009  8:00am

Wow Desperate democrats running scared. I love it! Maybe they will hold a press conference about having a press conference!

posted by: CrazyinOxford on October 22, 2009  9:36am

I tried to attend as well and was told to not come anywhere near the facility as I would be trespassing on private property and would be subject to arrest by the Oxford Police, eventhough I received a phone call at my house inviting me to attend!  Open event, only if your were a REPUBLICAN that supported Augie Palmer and Dave Haversat!

From inside the event, I was told by a friend that this was a political rally for Dave Haversat and Dave Yish, that they were in attendance and spoke, that Dave Stocker rambled for 15 minutes, and that there really was only 60 to 80 people.  Even the pictures I have seen of the event, from the inside, show a minimal amount of people.

Whoever wins the election will have to deal with the Affordable Housing issue and if Dave H. wins, I can’t wait to see him try to backtrack and then say he is in FAVOR of Affordable Housing regulations since it is now documented that he is against them.  Because if he and others were in favor of regulations, there would have been no oppostion to the grant!

It will be fun seeing them backtrack if they win!

Running scard, not even close, just getting out the truth, unlike the Republicans where lies and deceit and a part of their values.

posted by: about time on October 22, 2009  10:13am

So If this was not a political rally for the republicans.. Why are there at least 5 candidates running for various boards on the republican slate and NOT one democrats? This is a PAC run by Mr. Palmer’s boss! check out the pictures in the prior articles on this site.

posted by: Happy2BOxfordCitizen on October 23, 2009  2:25am

This actually makes me giggle with her little smirk! A scorn of pleasure! Obviously, this is a hot issue in town but why did planning & zoning committee even drop the study? I know! I know! I know! ha ha I heard that it’s because it’s being politicized. I say the committe should have never dropped it in the first place & proceeded along. Now the town will do a study and will have to pay for it because the selectman returned the balance to the state.  Hey who knows but with today’s economy we ALL may qualify for affordable housing. 

Seriously! I would like to know the real reason why the study was dropped. It just doesn’t make sense at all!

posted by: OxfordMom on October 23, 2009  9:23am

Concerned Citizen, you seem like a smart person.  What Mary Ann and Dave did was courageous.  But how can you fault them for telling the truth?  Mary Ann and Dave brought honesty and integrity back to Oxford after they won the election and will continue to do so.  Before them it was closed doors, special meetings and executive sessions every other week….check the minutes of when Mr. Palmer was First Selectman.  Mary Ann and Dave have been nothing but honest and transparent with the residents of Oxford.  As for Dave trying to get into the rally, he did it as a private citizen, and so did Mr. Teodosio.  But don’t worry, if Mr. Teodosio did charge for that time, it is budgeted for under Town Counsel, you know the budget that went through on the first try with no tax increases under the Drayton-Rogers/McKane administration!

posted by: Concerned Citizen on October 23, 2009  12:05pm

OxfordMom: How appropriate that you should say that what Mary Ann and Dave did was courageous.  Courage is defined in The Merriam-Webster Dictionary as “ability to conquer fear or despair.”  Was it fear or despair that they were able to conquer by holding a press conference for their own political gain?  Also, thank you for pointing out that Mr. Teodosio planned on attending the picnic/rally as a private citizen but at the same time the Town can pay for his time because it is budgeted for.  Somewhat of a contradiction…

posted by: Rita on October 23, 2009  7:46pm

Only ten more days of reading comments by “Mr. Happy,” yeah!  He doesn’t even know how to spell right (should be “their” not “there”) and he’s making fun of Mr. McKane.

posted by: Mary on October 28, 2009  9:30pm

I can tell you this from the voice of the chair himself to my husband at a church event he was catering…he had a meeting with the first selectman Maryann D. Rogers in her office before the study was dropped on 8-6-09 to discuss the concern with affordable housing because it was being politicized.  At that time, an agreement was made.  The agreement was that the commission would vote to drop the study if the commission would be able to utilize a different town attorney. The study was dropped according to minutes from 8-6-09. At that meeting, the chair informed the press that the selectmen knew nothing of this! Then he had the nerve to ask me to vote for him. Joke!

It seems to me, that we live in a world in which politics have replaced philosophy.

I found this quote and find it quite appropriate “Politicians are like diapers.  They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.”  ~Author Unknown

http://www.oxford-ct.gov/lib/site/data/meeting_documents/e9ff8a764d6aad0fae6212e30be2f0ed/Planning_And_Zoning.PDF

posted by: CrazyinOxford on October 29, 2009  6:02am

I also was made aware of a planning meeting in which Affordable Housing was discussed, but this was a Republican strategy meeting.  Not having much to run on, it was decided Palmer would get his boss to form a PAC to oppose this issue so that they could create controversy in town before the election.

Just like in the last election, Palmer and his cronies are doing things for personal reasons and he truly is the puppet master behind Haversat.

posted by: Chickenfarmer on October 29, 2009  11:02am

I don’t like Palmer but he fought off Garden Homes so you have to give him credit.  Mr. Haynes one of MaryAnn’s biggest supporters has a lot to gain if regulations allowing this zoning are passed.  Maryann and Dave McKane have flip flopped and it is getting to the point where they are protesting too much.  I am not voting for anyone who has touched this Not Palmer, Not Maryann, Not McKane, Not Vizzo or the others on P&Z.  I am voting Row A but leaving Palmer out.

posted by: CrazyinOxford on October 31, 2009  11:46pm

He fought off Garden Homes?  Garden Homes is STILL suing Oxford and this is still in the courts.  Since Oxford has less then 10% AH, Oxford is going to lose the court case and Garden Homes will be built.  This all happened under HAVERSAT and PALMER.  Their answer is to NOT create regulations, but to fight all developers in court (Haversat stated this in the debate at OG).  Is he crazy?  Does he know how much that would cost and that Oxford will lose every time?

Haversat has NO PLAN, at least Mary Ann wanted to establish REAL REGULATIONS, but Haversat said NO to that as well when he joined the Keep Oxford Green movement.

posted by: Happy2BOxfordCitizen on November 1, 2009  8:34am

CrazyinOxford…WOW you are all over the place! First & foremost, the Garden Homes decision will not be released until after the election. Interesting, although this has been tied up in court for 4 years now! Second, Planning & Zoning and Inland Wetlands denied the application, NOT Palmer & Haversat! The only thing they did was approve the funds in conjuction with the Board of Finance, for the legal item to pay the legal fees!

Also, they are not voting members on the applications!!! They can only be an ex-officio by virtue of being in office to the boards! Not for voting on pending applications! 

Third, Maryann didn’t create “real regulations!” The town planner and Planning & Zoning Board came up with draft language but they dropped the study anyway! Maryann “ACCEPTED” the grant to do a affordable housing study for the town!

I just realized that maybe you are the “REAL” crazy one in Oxford!!